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- called fiscal cliff. for the first time in days, president obama and house speaker john balkaner spoke by phone about the looming deadline. there reportedly was no major progress but leaders say it was a start. the two sides have agreed to tax reforms and spending cuts but are still at a stalemate on raising attacks on incomes over $250,000. >> the hold-up right now is that speaker boehner took a position i think the day after the campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but we're not willing to increase rates. >> i'm be here an i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> speaker boehner says the president has not responded to the republicans' latest proposal that does not include a tax increase on wealthy americans. >>> new this thursday morning, former delegate tiffany alston is officially out of office. yesterday, a prince george's county judge ruled that she was out of office following her october plea deal relating to office misconduct. the judge also ruled that the nomination of greg hall by the democrat
and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers up $800 billion in new taxes without upping tax rates at all tea party leaders say higher taxes shouldn't be in any form because it is not what republicans stand for. south carolina senator jim demint went so far as to call on supporters of his senate conservative fund to call senate republicans and ask them to oppose what he's calling the boehner tax hike. the looming question for re
reconsider the controversial measure. >>> and president obama and house speaker boehner mum on fiscal cliff negotiations. and a sign that a deal could be near. >>> new world order, the economy growing at an enormous rate in china, and in a few years it will surpass the u.s. what it means, coming up. >>> dozens of homes damaged in the south, ripping off roofs and damaging trees. more to come. stamp watch, straight ahead. >>> lots to talk about this morning. the next two hours, we'll talk with steve israel. jeff sessions, sandy levin, rahm emanuel and businessman javier paolomarez, ed burns, frankie monday easy, and chuck leavell. "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. "starting point" this morning, angry, united. bracing for protests in michigan as the state is poised to become the most unionized right to work state. as many as 10,000 unionized workers expected at the state capitol to voice their disapproval of the measure. some of them teachers, two detroit area school districts shut down for the day as hundreds of teachers plan to join the protest. president obama brought i
not sitting down to talk. >> but there was some encouraging news yesterday. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak on the telephone. right now, though, there's no evidence any future negotiations are scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1 for those earning more than $250,000 a year. but extending them for everyone else. >> just 32% think the cuts should be extended across the boards. >> at 6:37 rchtion it's time for -- at 6:37, it's time for another your money report. >> jessica doyle is talking about the real possibility we actually will indeed go over the cliff. >> they say good things come to those who wait except maybe in the case of the fiscal cliff. timothy geithner said the administration will absolutely take the leap. but some say both sides could wait till january to get down to business without any big economic consequences. the expiration of the bush tax cuts forcing tax rates higher on 90% of americans won't be felt right away. some economists actually call this the fiscal float instead of
cliff talks. kayla is live with that. >> reporter: a little bit of movement potentially. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone yesterday as democrats and republicans continue to dig their heels in over this budget standoff. there's been no announcement of any new face the face talks as lawmakers try to reach a deal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff in january. treasury secretary tim geithner tells cnbc republicans have made a little progress, but the obama administration is "absolutely ready to go over the cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise tax rates on wealthy americans." apple has lost a bit of its shine. the tech giant stock suffering its worst day in four years on thursday. several factors may have been at play. investors worried apple may be giving up ground in the tablet market to rivals, while nokia beat the company to the punch. there are also unconfirmed reports a stock clearinghouse firm is reducing the margin requirements on apple stock. apple lost $35 billion in market value yesterday. to put that into perspective, there are 417 companies listed
several months. >> reporter: we are now hearing the staffs for president obama and republican house speaker john boehner are talking now again after a week. whether they're making significant progress, we hope to get more details today. >> tracie, thank you. >>> breaking news out of syria. here's melissa mollet at the live desk. >> good morning. syrian rebels claiming damascus international a civilian target. they're warning civilians not to approach it. they're also warning the syrian government is planning to use chemical weapons. and regime forces are firing rockets around the capital. 40,000 people have been killed in the country's civil war. at the live desk, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> today world war ii veterans nationwide will commemorate the 70th anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor. pearl harbor survivors will attend a wreath laying ceremony. in our area, flags will be flown at half staff today on all local, state, and federal buildings. in virginia, governor bob mcdonnell will attend a ceremony and lay a wreath at the virginia war memorial in richmond. governor mcdon
obama and house speaker john boehner. both are still sticking to their separate plans. the president's plan raises taxes on the top 2% to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue, while the gop wants to close tax loopholes to raise half as much. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> the white house says they are also concerned that republicans may use the debt ceiling, which will need to be raised early next year to get their way on tax and spending cuts. the pentagon is already planning major cuts in case there is no deal. the preliminary plan is to cut 500 billion dollars in jobs and programs. the pentagon's spokesman says those cuts could force the defense department to abandon its new military strategy. it's also likely to affect spending on weapons and technology programs as well as how the military provides for troops and their families. >>> two australian radio hosts
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leaders in the house blaming president obama for the lack of action. they're calling on him to initiate face-to-face negotiations. did we say a deal has to be made in the next 25 days. house members are out of town for a long weekend break. fox business network's rich edson is live from washington. so are we seeing any movement in these talks at all, rich? >> some, jon. a house aide says president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone yesterday afternoon. that is their first conversation in a week and since republicans offered $800 billion in new tax revenue and more than a trillion dollars in spending cuts. aides refuse to say if the president and speaker are now closer to a deal. for both sides a little more campaigning. president obama heads to northern virginia this afternoon. the white house says he will meet with a middle class family to press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases and raise rates on those making more. house republicans return to their congressional districts. they will meet with small business owners to und
a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we try to figure out what to do next. then we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition eight. and serendipitously a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> reporter: the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law, who turned out to be ted olson, a towering figure in the conservative legal movement. so that stunned you, right? >> yes, more than stunned me. it stunned me, but i said if this is true, this is the home run of all times. i mean, the idea that ted olson, this arch conservative, the solicitor general for george bush, who had argued bush v. gore, and basically put me in bed for a couple of days, i was so depressed after bush v. gore, was interested in gay rights. i thought, let's check it out. >> reporter: didn't you have any doubts about ted olson? >> you know, they say that politics makes strange bedfellows. well, you don't have a stranger bedfellow than me and ted olson. >> i was skeptical, absolutely
to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration, the white house has been very clear, they will not sign anything, even to get past december 31st. that doesn't include a debt ceiling of some sort. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also. i think the concern will be an administration overstepping or overreaching and trying to jam a debt limit increase, especially the kinds that are being discussed now. i'm all in favor of getting rid of the debt limit. it makes no sense from a technical perspective. from a policy perspective. but it's probably a bridge too far to attempt that right now. so the question i think really will become, without any more significant entitlement reform, at the very least the kind of medicare eligibility age increase you were discussing is a debt limit increase
. president obama meeting with the house speaker boehner in a closed door session over the weekend. yesterday in fact. trying to hammer out a deal. we hope you watch the redskins win over the ravens there in the last minute. president set to speak later at an auto plant in michigan about his planes it raise taxes on the rich. our chief political correspondent live at the white house with the latest. hi, john. >> hi, tyler. it is glammy and overcast in washington today but everybody is looking for bright signs about the fiscal cliff. we have a bright side yesterday when john boehner came here to the white house. house speaker to talk to president obama. first individual one on one meeting since the election and that meeting and some other signals that have been sent publicly by both parties have caused some noted skeptics of us getting a fiscal cliff deal. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've gotten out after ka bookie theater and gone to dancing the tango with those two guys. any time you start to tango, you have a chance. >> chances of getting it done now are better.
are now in the had hands of two men, president obama and house speaker eer jo boehner. bill plante is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning in the west. the president has stepped up his rhetoric, warning failure to fix the fiscal crisis could sour the christmas season. as another day passed without any real progress, president obama ventured out to push his claim that the middle class will suffer. ♪ you better watch out you better not cry ♪ >> at the national christmas tree lighting, president obama joined the holiday mood. but earlier, visiting a middle class virginia family, he threatened that congress could ruin the christmas season. if it doesn't act, the administration says, middle class tax bills will increase by $2,000. >> we're in the midst of the christmas season. i think the american people are counting on this getting solved. the closer it gets to the brink, the more stress there is going to be. >> reporter: what may raise the stress level even further is the promise that both the president and treasury secretary geithner has m
plan to raise encloses above 250 -- to raise taxes above $250,000 a year. president obama met with house speaker boehner for the first time in more than three weeks. the house is still refuseing to pass obama's tax plan much less agree to other policies. josh earnest is not giving any details into yesterday's. some republicans are coming around on improving higher tax rates for the wealthy. bob corker said on fox news sunday, obama does have the upper hand on taxes. oklahoma representative tom cole said on cnn's state of a union if brought to a vote they would pass the house. that goes against speaker boehner's tone who seems to believe obama's plan would not be able to pass both chambers of congress. as far as what americans think of the president right now that is pretty evenly split. the new politico battleground poll just out today has his approval rating at 50%. more than billcat bill press" is coming up after our break. join us in the chat room at see you there. viewer for capella university. matter. >> i work with adul
echoing mitt romney that he's in la jolla and barack obama is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since romney lost and made his little gifts comment after the election. >> bill: that obama won by handing out gifts to the constituencies. >> minorities, women. just gave them -- best example is gave women contraception for their votes. that's potentially -- basically what they said. sununu yesterday or i guess it was tuesday night said that he said the same thing. he was like if you look at this, it wasn't about message. we didn't lose because of message. we lost because -- >> bill: didn't lose because they had a lousy candidate. >> we lost because of the hold-in to obama and what they can give him. >> bill: they're just in denial, right? >> wh
. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner cannot reach a deal. now to the conflict in syria and new reports out of britain say the u.s. is launching an operation to armed rebels. sources telling antitank missiles will be sent through friendly countries. it comes as rebel forces make advances. the fight is far from over for citizens. richard engel has the latest from inside syria. >> parts of syria controlled by the rebels, there's no talk of the diplomatic efforts. the trips and leadings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counter part, there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. instead, what people talk about is the suffering of the people. the people are showing tremendous resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people that live here live next to a rebel commander. now, they are homeless. there's tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth half of what it was worst when the war began. a loaf of bread cost 20 times what it did months ago. the rebels are making advances. they hope to soon control the city, the commercial capital. a
's what we know right now. we have just 20 days left for the obama administration and house speaker boehner's office to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. while talks continue privately between both, no public details of progression toward the compromise have been released. in the last hour, our guest, tony fratto who is the former press secretary and jerry bernstein agreed that we would likely get some sort of a deal, just perhaps not in a form that was widely expected. joining us right now is the first of many lawmakers we'll be speaking with today, texas congressman jeb hensarling who is also the incoming chairman of the house financial services committee. and mr. chairman, first of all, congratulations. >> thank you. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for being with us today. >> happy to do it. >> we hear all of this talk, we hear all the talk that's been leading up to this point. we know it's gone a little quieter at this point. maybe that's a good thing. i also know you've been pretty firm about this. you've said that elections do have consequences. the president is getting
, president barack obama spoke on the phone with house speaker john boehner on avoiding the fiscal cliff. but boehner as facing a growing backlash among rank and file republicans. some say they will never support tax hikes but others are breaking with the leadership saying they will support the president's demand for an increase on rates on upper incomes. >>> new this morning, more support for a push to crack down on texting while driving in virginia. legislation is in the works that would classify texting behind the wheel as reckless driving. the virginia state crime commission has announced its support for the measure. it is not expected to be taken up until early next year. ext y >>> time now not morning line and everybody is talking about sunday's redskins-ravens game. redskins have lost the last two against baltimore. now, as far as the redskins injuries are concerned, london fletcher sat out of practice yesterday with an ankle injury and left tackle trent williams continues to nurse a deep thigh bruise. deangelo hall is in a boot but it is like lie all of them way play this weekend
reached speaking with the house speaker and the minority leader. president obama speech to members of the business roundtable about the negotiations and the economy. he told ceos he would not negotiate. because of technical problems, we can only show you part of his remarks. >> we are grateful for both the electricity and the engagement we have had with members of your team. i know your team has really reached out significantly over the last few months to many people in this room and i know personally, the outreach to us is genuine and we know you are seeking solutions. but that was outlined very sincerely this morning when we met with jack and the rest of the team. i hope you get the same sense of purpose and commitment from us as we engage with you. there aren't a lot of wallflowers' in here. we are eager for a two-way exchange nonetheless. hopefully your take away would be to have a useful purpose in the dialogue. mr. president, thank you for joining us today. [applause] >> good morning everybody. it is great to see all of you. many of you had a chance to see individually or in
to negotiate directly with president obama. he has asked that senate leaders and house minority leader nancy pelosi be excluded from future talks and those say clearing the negotiating room clears the chances for success. f we have new unemployment numbers released just a few minutes ago. employers added 146,000 new jobs in november. the unemployment rate dropped to a four-year low of 7 .7%. coming up at 6:15 the factors that economists predicted would have a negative impact on the numbers but apparently did not. >>> time now 6:07. we are following this story. oakland church youth group traveling in florida they are out of money and their belongings because thieves broke into their van. a group of 24 teenagers and young adults were eating at a restaurant yesterday about an hour after arriving far weekend youth conference. someone broke into their van stole 12,000 cash. one member of the group says they were able to have some money mired so they -- wired so they did spend last night in a hotel. >>> survivors of the attack on pearl hear already be honored on coast guard island. today is the 71
. but the white house is open to it. they are open to it in 2011 in the boehner lsh obama talks. what's weird is it's always presented as the height of fiscal responsibility even though it's fiscally irresponsible. which brings us to the challenge. why raising the age does not save you very much money and is probably a bad policy idea in under two minutes. do we have the clock. let's do it. the argument for cutting 65 and 67-year-olds out of a deficit talk is simple. it saves money. the keizer family foundation estimates that when it's all said and done, the government could save $5.7 billion. but those 65 and 66-year-olds don't disappear. they are still going to be here and get sick sometimes which means the savings we'd see by kicking them off they pop back up elsewhere in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since it uses power to pay less by quite a bit. the seniors turning to private insurance will have to pay more from the same coverage. 3.7 billion more in the first year of th
's so much speculation about sunday's meeting at the white house. president obama and john boehner, mano y mano, eric cantor wasn't there nobody else in the room with him. and what does it mean, if anything? >> i think it means that they're at least talking and neither of them came out afterwards and said, you know, we're -- there's no chance for a deal. i think the less we hear in terms of a deal being made, the better. the fewer the leaks the fewer the complaints. the more the likelihood we get a fiscal cliff agreement at some point. there's still obviously the chance we go off the cliff. i think that's pretty unlikely to come to some arrangement on the tax increases. offset by entitlement reforms. the big question is what would democrats agree to and can the president bring them all along? he had that conversation with harry reid from air force i yesterday, i believe. which is significant in the sense that if we believe he's now trying to craft some sort of compromise deal, the democrats will accept, that
, president obama is back up in the white house four more years. [ applause ] how black is that? >> bill: now, some were upset by fox's monologue but not me. he is obviously being satirical. yes he goes into offensive area but that's what is satiriss do. i do not see anything hatedful in foxx's monetary i do not believe jamie foxx wants white people dead. he has latitude because his ancestors were slaves he can speak to that and given more room than someone who does not share that experience. hate speech is very specific. it's dine to marginalize and opponent. business rival or someone else the hater doesn't like. hate speech is a cheap way to retreat. when you think about it labeling someone a bigot, racist, homophobe, whatever is a form of violence. you want on lookers to join you in harming the person you are defaming. that's why we are on this campaign. we will let you know exactly hot offenders are in very vivid terms. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. what about this jamie foxx business? joining us from new york our barack and hard place duo monica crowley and alan col
to tell you right now speaking of blackness, my president, president obama is back up in the white house four more years. [ applause ] how black is that? >> bill: now, some were upset by fox's monologue but not me. he is obviously being satirical. yes he goes into offensive area but that's what is satiriss do. i do not see anything hatedful in foxx's monetary i do not believe jamie foxx wants white people dead. he has latitude because his ancestors were slaves he can speak to that and given more room than someone who does not share that experience. hate speech is very specific. it's dine to marginalize and opponent. business rival or someone else the hater doesn't like. hate speech is a cheap way to retreat. when you think about it labeling someone a bigot, racist, homophobe, whatever is a form of violence. you want on lookers to join you in harming the person you are defaming. that's why we are on this campaign. we will let you know exactly hot offenders are in very vivid terms. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight. what about this jamie foxx business? joining us from new
, after president obama and house speaker john boehner both were tight-lipped how the negotiations went. the co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, he was asked about the chances of striking a deal to avoid the cliff. >> it's probably more like a 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> be sure to tune in tomorrow for the fiscal cliff coverage live from washington. mission critical, rise above d.c., all day long. becky quick, jim cramer, maria bartiromo holding their feet to the fire about where they stand on the fiscal cliff and how they'll do their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal. now, there are some bowles comments. 40%, yeah, but the odds are much better. they're still 35% chance it will not happen. it's not exactly confidence building. >> not necessarily confidence building. alway
% of wealthy americans. >>> and president obama met privately with house speaker john boehner at the white house over the weekend. it was their first one-on-one meeting since the crisis. >>> 8:06. a federal judge expected to approve a plan to give control of the oakland police department to a court-appointed director. this comes after oakland failed to meet a federal judge's order to make reforms agreed to in the settlement of the riders police brutality case. the director will have the power to spend city money, change police procedures and if the police department continues to fail to make reforms even fire the police chief. >>> well, a man accused of shooting and killing a driver in a road-rage incident is talking now. brian jones is in the sacramento county jail. now, he admitted he fired shots at another driver in sacramento. it happened after jones says his sister said she was being followed by someone she didn't know saturday morning. she called brian for help. jones admit, he cut off the driver then he -- then, he claims the driver came after him with his car. >>> at that time i wa
house. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: president obama has met with msnbc host along with other progressives -- was i invited no. can anyone even imagine if fox news had stopped by the bush white house to discuss policy? they would have been rightly outraged. [ wah wah ] >> rush limbaugh sat in george bush senior's box during the convention. >> stephanie: an influential group of conservative radio hosts including laura ingraham. >> imagine if we had down that. [ mocking whining ] >> to the right. >> >> stephanie: the "stephanie miller show" has no information as to whether laura ingraham likes her hair pulled during sex. if she does it's to the right. all right [ inaudible ] go ahead. >> caller: our president is doing so bad, but yet apple wants to move the factory here. >> stephanie: exactly right. unemployment dropped to the lowest in four years. >> caller: yeah, so i mean these guys are all hot wind. they are trying to push the statute of liberty over the cliff, and it is not happening. >> reality has a liberal bias. >> stephanie: that's a disturbing image
is going to sit down by himself first and then michelle will join them. afterwards the obamas and dog bo will give a tour of the white house. hundreds of people are already gathering at the state capital in lancing, michigan as the city prepares for what could be the largest demonstration in history. the legislature has now rushed through right to work legislation, and governor rick snyder is expected to sign it today. police are on hand and limbed the number of people allowed in the common areas of the capitol. president obama said the right to work bill is not about economics and has everything to do with politics. taxpayers have now made a total of about $22.7 billion overall from the government's investment in the bank rescue. aig is now fully private again. and the british bank is going to pay the u.s. a $1.9 billion penalty for breaking u.s. sanction laws. they have transferred money through every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, fraud on wall street. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting co
: well, that was president obama and first family moments ago lighting the white house christmas tree. beautiful sight. one more thing up now. a lot of people ask you why are you in studio. we tell you every day but i'll make it clear for you. go. ♪ >> all right, we're in studio d. a lot of our audience, "the five" audience want to know why we were displaced. there is a good reason. what are you doing with the studio? >> we turned in a winter wonderland. ♪ >> this is our christmas set for the fox and friends special christmas. if you notice we have taken the television -- logo is wrong. >> that is actual fire and i need to feed it. ♪ ♪ >> eric: when you are getting out of here to get back in the studio? >> as soon as we do the program. we have an elf. gutfeld will be the elf. but we have nativity scene. >> eric: beckel claims he would be the best baby jesus. >> he is certainly not one of the wise men. >> eric: thank you, steve. get out of here. get the studio back. >> fine. >> throw another log on. ♪ ♪ >> andrea: was up with of the wise men dr. manny with the beard? looks
that president obama doesn't do regularly. and that is take a lot of questions from the white house press corp. that is where you get stronger and better answers, sometimes deeper answers to questions that america deserves to know. not -- the problem for president obama is that who he talked to yesterday is a narrow slice of the audience. more people know about that now than would have ever seen it on that other network. he needs broaden out and talk to and try to persuade people that are not just on the left. >> brian: you remember you invited charles charles and other conservatives before he actually took office? >> remember, they were charmed and they said, huh, maybe this is going to go better than we thought. and then they were bitterly disappointed. >> steve: let's talk a little bit about this. the congressman from in texas, steve forbes out yesterday talking about look, we've got to do something about taxes. the president is even talking a little bit about it. we need a flat tax rather than raising taxes. here is a little snippet of congressman gilbert. listen. >> when you hear fair sha
payments. >>> now to the really big financial story, the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner says president obama has wasted another week by not making a real proposal. meanwhile, republicans are divided and senator rand paul on this show last night may have made the most constructive proposal of all. >> i'm happy not to filibuster it. i will announce tonight on your show i will work with harry reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court agreed to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's
me. >> john boehner has sent president obama a counterour. a spokesman for house speaker boehner declined to share details of the offer but said the proposal would solve our looming debt crisis and create american jobs. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the white house will make and the longer the white house slow walk this is policy the close we get to fiscal cliff. we'll hear what senate leaders had to say today they spoke for 15 minutes at the capitol. >> it's time to see if the president is willing to make any cuts at all and whether he's willing to lead his party in making an agreement with us. the senate democrats have ruled out any spend regular duckses at all. if you look at the problem we have, it's overwhelmingly that we spend too much, we spent our time and you all have written about it because so much of the discussion has been about it, talking about increasing taxes on the top two rates. even if you did that it would provide enough money to run the government for eight days. clearly that doesn't have anything to do with getting
that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world. the next new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of self-reliance and working hard and taking care of people that are not just in your house but are in your neighborhood. your cities. our states, the vibrancy of our country. and we are headed over the fiscal cliff after four years of leadership from this president who is running, running directly to the fiscal cliff. has even said, and secretary of treasury said, we don't mind jumping off this cliff. mr. speaker, we should not be having that kin
more like president obama could get his way on tax hikes for the wealthy. he met behind closed doors with house speaker john boehner at the white house this afternoon. no word yet on what came out of those talks, but an increasing number of congressional republicans are indicating they'll accept a tax -- >> we have spent all this time talking about revenue, but as we watched our government continue to spend more. this is really about spending. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> across the board tax hikes and spending cuts will automatically kick in if the white house and congress continueeach a deal now in 22 days. >>> dallas cowboys player remains behind bars tonight after a deadly crash that killed a teammate. defensive lineman josh brent is being held on half a million dollars bond. his lawyer called that excessive. police say brent was driving drunk when he crashed his car in the dallas suburb of irving yesterday. tem me teammate jerry brown died in the crash. a moment of silence was held for brown before today's game. >>>
the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligibility ag
on behind closed doors between speaker boehner and president obama but this morning i'll go inside the negotiations with two lawmakers closest to them. top white house ally in the senate, dick durbin of illinois and congressman kevin mccarthy of california. i spent time on capitol hill this week. the one question i want to know this morning, what has changed since the debt debacle of last summer? the sense is we may be closer to a deal that posturing leads you to believe. we'll talk about that with our political roundtable, as well, with newt gingrich and msnbc's lawrence o'donnell and the 2016 speculation has begun. that's coming up. >> now, your 11 insta-weather plus forecast with ava marie. >> good morning. the time is 9:39, it is 53 degrees downtown. that's a live look from skycam right now, a couple of rain drops still on the camera lens. 50 degrees at b.w.i. marshall where the humidity has dropped to 93%, down from a 100% humidity earlier this morning. winds northeast 15 miles per hour. those winds and the lower humidity have helped to clear out some of the fog but rain is st
on this one. thanks very much. >>> the house speaker, john boehner, says the ball is in president obama's court to prevent the so-called fiscal cliff. but is he hinting at new room for compromise on hiking taxes on america's richest? [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. have led to an increase intands clinical depression. drug and alcohol abuse is up. and those dealing with grief don't have access to the professional help they need. when you see these issues, do you want to walk away or step up? with a degree in the field of counseling or psychology from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to make a difference in the lives of others. let's get started at there's a health company that can help you stay that way. what's healthier than that? hurry in and try five succulent entree
other, with no new talks scheduled between the major players in the debate and the speaker of the house finds himself defending his own plans for members of his own party. in northwest d.c., president obama is on the hard sell trying to convince a group of business executives to support raising taxes on the wealthy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up the top 2%, and that includes all of you, yes? >> reporter: saying a fiscal cliff deal must include new revenues. the president pushed his plan to raise taxes on household earning over $250,000 a year. >> and i am here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: john boehner has a hard sell of his own with conservatives upset over his offer of $800 billion in new taxes. >> the plans the white house has talked about us this far, they could not pass either house. >> reporter: a "washington post" poll finds 53% would blame republicans if the country went over the fiscal cliff while only 27% would blame the president. >> we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. >> reporter: republicans and dem
is what we know now. just a short while ago house speaker boehner said he's still waiting on a solid plan from president obama. >> i'm hopeful we can reach an agreement. this is a serious issue. there's a lot at stake. the person people sent us here to work together towards the best possible solution, and that means cutting spending. the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. >> meanwhile despite all of the back and forth, the market is seemingly optimistic today. at least some form of a deal will be released. we've been up 100 points on the dow industrials for the past hour. senator mark warner of virginia perhaps putting it best saying compared to the size of our economy the current proposals are relatively small and government should step up and get a deal done. >> we're joined by representative lee terry, republican from nebraska represents the district home to a guy we all know, warren buffett. >> pretty famous guy. >> we spoke to some folks already today. we're not hearing many details. wha
with the president, house speaker john boehner says the white house is stone walling. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house is has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle-class families, then we're also going to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35% to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over
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